jesus spoke of loving your enemy, matt.5:43, luke 6:26, but look what is said in.
mark 16:51,16 "go preach but who ever does not believe his ass will be set on fire".. i don't think that is good news.
hell if that is love, what the hell is hate.
Haha Nicolaou! Good one!
I also was bother by the double standards of Jesus, and "us"...
HE could get mad at the money changers, call them for what they were, but WE had to "turn the other cheek" when robbed and lied too by "our brothers" o/wise we weren't "Christ like"
my husband was recently subjected to an intervention by his parents.
i am apparently a danger to his spirituality.
after i stopped attending meetings and went apostate hubby decided to resign as a ms to spend more time with me.
Awwweeesssooommneeee!!!!
When we woke up, we wanted to"do it on our own..." ONLY the Society's literature.. We didn't want to be accused of "being apostate" (haha)...
As we learned... It doesn't matter which way you find out "the truth"... Right?
Give him his space, when he opens up more, he will soon come to you!
Congratulations! cha ching!
a friend of mine visited australia and to his surprise there were no jw carts on streets.. wonder if it was just a coincidence or is it due to media attention that arc has created?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt9xi0r9kvy
At 15 minutes into the video, Tyler asks the elder about "the two greatest commandments" and how he would show love. An exchange definitely worth watching... True colors revealed.
Tyler asks great questions, and the best part of it is, Tyler cannot be intimidated by the threat of "disfellowshipping" or "shunning". He can be open, honest, sincere and the elder can do nothing to him.
I also like the fact that he interviews the neighbors, the woman is a sweetheart, and also the man who built and designed their home. Nice folks, quite a different story than what the COBE told.
It is a great perspective on how "the world" views this type of "neighborly love."
i was twenty years old.. as a jehovah's witness, i had no career path ahead of me, no college to attend, and no prospect for my future other than.
knocking on people's doors and scanning the horizon for signs of armageddon:).
i was engaged to a 17-year-old witness girl i had met at the mineral wells assembly.. what was our future together?
So sorry, Terry, I can only imagine the things going through your head... you were an innocent person, an honest person, with sincere desires..
I was a teenager in the late 60s early 70s, and those same kinds of things went thru my mind too... "Will I 'cry out'?" "What if I like it?" "What if I can't run?" "What if they have a knife to my throat?" "Will I even tell the elders?" "Can I tell the police? What if THEY tell the elders, and I get DF'd?" It scares you.
Even when you were wondering "how this was going to reflect on Jehovah’s Witnesses," and thinking, "asked to transfer to Alternate Service in the hospital at this point I’d be marked as a loser whose lack of faith brought on his own ruination. I would let my fellow inmates down," the mind numbing propaganda still stuck, didn't it? ..... you will "never be tested beyond what you can endure".... That is a sad thing to stick in people's heads, because if they CAN'T endure it, then they must not be so good... when really, it isn't THEIR fault, it was a crime, a crime that the perpetrator must be accountable for.
Your illustration of the fake map that "keeps taking you in circles" is spot on! "The journey that never ends..." A JW is 'never good enough,' 'never done,' 'must always improve,' ..... even then, when we had done our very, very best, we wondered, 'will i make it thru Armageddon?"
The WTBS wants so much of US, yet gives us nothing. It demands more and more. I am so grateful that many have written of their real life journeys, made you-tube videos, blogged, gone to court.... We are now seeing, as has never been possible before, 'the fake map makers' the 'men behind the curtain' for who they are...
Thx, cha ching!
as the date of return of the lord jesus christ and the beginning of his invisible presence or parousia.
what, then, about the parousia (presence) of christ?
so a.d. 1914 marks the time of christs invisible return in spirit.
Thank you MacHislopp!
I think people SHOULD be able to defend "truths", and if the WT claims to be the way of salvation for ... millions of people" they should be willing to submit to scrutiny and criticism.
All who criticize have the obligation to be truthful in presenting the facts and fair and objective inassessing such
It always bothered me too when the "Society" would say terrible things about any other religion,institution, any ANYthing that "criticizes or scrutinizes" them, or that was "incorrect"!
Also, in the Watchtower issue of July 15, 1949 (page 215, paragraph 22), the statement is made:
“ . . . Messiah, the Son of man, came into Kingdom power A.D. 1914 and . . . this constitutes his second coming and the beginning of his second parousía or presence.”
Q. 55. (a) When and how was the insertion of 100 years into the period of the Judges done away with, so that 6,000 years of man’s existence ended when?
(b) How did this affect the date 1874 C.E., and what question arose? This is a question from the WT, very direct! This is what they do when they change something.... like "What does a generation mean NOW?"
I was a teenager, in the 70's when a couple of these books were studied, and very busy with highschool, homework, etc.... Then, when these books were studied again and again, I was a wife, mother, busy on my little hamster wheel: "studying for meetings, writing talks, going in service every weekend.."
It was hard to even get the materials together to just 'write a talk.' I remember having WT's and AW's all over the kitchen table, scouring paragraphs for subjects that related to my "theme".
No CD-Roms... no internet, no computer. Even with these things (that I totally LOVE) it takes time to do the research.
Thank you AGAIN MacHislopp!
cha ching!
i'm assuming this video is an appeal regarding this post.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3p29yk/mcfarland_vs_jehovahs_witnesses_ohio_court_of/.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/258835/elizabeth-mcfarland-child-abuse-lawsuit-on-news?size=20&page=2.
We saw this yesterday when surfing "Jehovah's Witnesses" on YouTube, and couldn't believe we saw the appeal (by WT) on line. Apparently, the court posts each session. Public records.
The man representing the victim is Devin Story, who works for the Zalkin law firm.
When you listen to WT lawyers, they are always concerned about "the law" and "confidentiality"... not the victim.
living with 4 other guys.
"good morning, richard!
richard is almost never in the house.
Haha! I can totally relate to that Terry! I am just like Richard... appear out of nowhere, I scream!
We were visiting friends in Nevada, and the 15 year old was messing around hiding in the closet... I knew where she was, and when I opened the door, I still screamed! haha!
...with dick and helen kelly.
got to meet joe and barbara anderson and their friend joy on their whirlwind u.s. tour.
wonderful conversation and opportunity to reminisce about our wts experiences and our plans for the future.
when somebody posted this on fb, i was anxious to see how ridiculous it would be, probably worse then the gb prophecies, etc.
after watching the clip, i honestly don't know what to believe.
at the very least it's very entertaining and interesting.
This video reminds me of 'propaganda techniques', as it repeats phrases over and over, starts off as "could be" and becomes "it IS".... "We learned this fact in this scene"... Sounds a lot like Russell in his crazy books, and also like the WT in it's "revealing of new lights"
I wish I had the time, and I would connect the dots between another movie, another event, along with a book, and say "I predicted it" and afterwards I would reveal the utter ridiculousness of it all....
People create these wild videos, and say "Here, it's a fact, YOU disprove it," when really, THEY are the ones who should prove it in the first place.
